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yobarr wrote:

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Cupie wrote:

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My total FIT is 52c/kWh  Thanks to the great Qld Gov 44c.   

Unfortunately at the time of installation, given the then price of Solar I only went for a 1.5 kWh system  .. Another wrong decision.

(My bloody Chinese owned power company has reduced a miserable FIT payment of 11c to 8c per kWh) 

So with a usage rate of 28c Peak & 23c Controlled per kWh (less a 28% pay on time discount) I am still best off feeding as much as possible into the grid.

We run the washing machine during the night.  Wish we could do the same for the drier.    edit .. In sunny Qld about the only use for the drier is to get the towels fluffy  .. except in the recent unseasonal rainy weather.

Our HWS is on off peak (controlled) tariff too.

I wash the panels as frequently as I can & there are no shadows on them.

 

ps ... Recently the bill arrived on the last day of the Pay on Time discount day.  When I rang to complain indicating my intention to go elsewhere they miraculously revealed an improved offer -  Peak 17c v 20c discounted for POT; Controlled 14c v 16.5c with POT disc.  But also the 'Daily Rate down from $1.20/day to $0.96 another $20 or so saving. 

Oh BTW they said that because we were good payers they would have applied the POT discount even if we were late paying.  LOL

-- Edited by Cupie on Sunday 5th of June 2022 12:50:55 PM

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 Hi Cupie. Is your inverter also only 1.5kw? There are ways around your 'problem'. You might like to PM me if you're interested? Cheers

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 I think that we have been down that path before.

Yes the Inverter is 1.5kWh.

Our issue is that we can not change our solar set up in any way or even the 'owner' of the system without voiding our State Govt 44c FIT arrangement.

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 OK Cupie. Tried to help, but you seem to know more than I do. Sorry I bothered you. Cheers.

Here's a story about the electricity price rises not likely to affect the ACT residents because the ACT Government has gone 100% renewable energy. I think it might be the same for Tasmania because of all the hydro electricity but there was no story about that:

Why Canberrans' electricity bills are unlikely to rise while other Australians' power costs soar

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-06/why-arent-canberrans-paying-high-electricity-prices/101126274

Cupie wrote:

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yobarr wrote:

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Cupie wrote:

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yobarr wrote:

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Cupie wrote:

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My total FIT is 52c/kWh  Thanks to the great Qld Gov 44c.   

Unfortunately at the time of installation, given the then price of Solar I only went for a 1.5 kWh system  .. Another wrong decision.

(My bloody Chinese owned power company has reduced a miserable FIT payment of 11c to 8c per kWh) 

So with a usage rate of 28c Peak & 23c Controlled per kWh (less a 28% pay on time discount) I am still best off feeding as much as possible into the grid.

We run the washing machine during the night.  Wish we could do the same for the drier.    edit .. In sunny Qld about the only use for the drier is to get the towels fluffy  .. except in the recent unseasonal rainy weather.

Our HWS is on off peak (controlled) tariff too.

I wash the panels as frequently as I can & there are no shadows on them.

 

ps ... Recently the bill arrived on the last day of the Pay on Time discount day.  When I rang to complain indicating my intention to go elsewhere they miraculously revealed an improved offer -  Peak 17c v 20c discounted for POT; Controlled 14c v 16.5c with POT disc.  But also the 'Daily Rate down from $1.20/day to $0.96 another $20 or so saving. 

Oh BTW they said that because we were good payers they would have applied the POT discount even if we were late paying.  LOL

-- Edited by Cupie on Sunday 5th of June 2022 12:50:55 PM

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 Hi Cupie. Is your inverter also only 1.5kw? There are ways around your 'problem'. You might like to PM me if you're interested? Cheers

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 I think that we have been down that path before.

Yes the Inverter is 1.5kWh.

Our issue is that we can not change our solar set up in any way or even the 'owner' of the system without voiding our State Govt 44c FIT arrangement.

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 OK Cupie. Tried to help, but you seem to know more than I do. Sorry I bothered you. Cheers.

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 Thanks for the offer.

Sorry if I gave you the impression that I was flicking you off.  That's certainly not the case. I appreciate your offer & don't purport to have superior knowledge of domestic Solar.

In fact you & I discussed my specific situation a year or so ago per PMs & came to the conclusion that the Qld State Govt. scheme that pays 44c/kWh absolutely precludes me from making any change to my solar system or indeed the account owner (except between spouses).   edit .. If anyone can provide evidence to the contrary, I would be very pleased to get a link to the source.

Therefore in my case I just have to suck up the combined FIT of 52c/kWh.  LOL

I suppose that I could run the figures to see if forgoing the Govt scheme & investing' in a new large system, may put me ahead in the long term, but it is highly likely that I will sell the house in a 2 years or so & in any case I am 81 and perhaps don't have sufficient years left to recoup the cost of a larger system, taking the other variables into account.

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 Thanks, Cupie, for the clarification, as I was a bit peed off with you! However, given your age and your stated plan to sell your home, it is probably not worthwhile doing anything as it would take about 3 years to recoup the costs involved. Take care. Cheers

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Pool runs from 8am to 11am. We have two HW systems, they are off peak as it is too expensive to connect otherwise. The solar payed for itself within 3.5 years.

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 When does the off peak HWS come on ? I would rather have it come on around 10am when its free !  Not off peak !  

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 From memory off peak in Queensland is 11pm to 7am. Perhaps, as his post suggests, he feels that it is too expensive to swap wires from one meter and connect to another? Cheers

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Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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Pool runs from 8am to 11am. We have two HW systems, they are off peak as it is too expensive to connect otherwise. The solar payed for itself within 3.5 years.

-- Edited by rgren2 on Saturday 4th of June 2022 06:54:43 PM

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 When does the off peak HWS come on ? I would rather have it come on around 10am when its free !  Not off peak !  

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 HW is metered separately, smart meters, electricity is not free unless you have a battery, you feed into the system, then buy it back. 

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 Rod, it appears that you've been mislead as in Queensland house gets first use of Solar production, with balance exported to grid. That's why you wire everything to one meter as Solar can feed only one. You also fit HW timer. Cheers

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rgren2 wrote:

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Aus-Kiwi wrote:

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Pool runs from 8am to 11am. We have two HW systems, they are off peak as it is too expensive to connect otherwise. The solar payed for itself within 3.5 years.

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 When does the off peak HWS come on ? I would rather have it come on around 10am when its free !  Not off peak !  

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 HW is metered separately, smart meters, electricity is not free unless you have a battery, you feed into the system, then buy it back. 

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 Rod, it appears that you've been mislead as in Queensland house gets first use of Solar production, with balance exported to grid. That's why you wire everything to one meter as Solar can feed only one. You also fit HW timer. Cheers

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 This, Ill have to check.

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Nothing to check. Those are the facts in Queensland. How to wire it depends on usage patterns, size of system and how smart your Electrician is. Cheers 

A little light hearted post.

They have also sacked Australia of its resources at the sacrifice of all Australians.
Water: Mining and Agriculture exports use up water. The ordinary citizen has to put up without adequate water.
Remember all the water restrictions.
Remember the towns relying on water being trucked in. Towns who had been there since early pioneer settlement with no water issues?
The Great Australian basin is drying up. The Darling dried up due to large cotton farms using up all the water.
"They" sold water rights in the name of greed and to hell with the Australian citizens.

Everywhere you look. Every topic you can think of. It all comes down to greed. And all Govts can do is tell us we must be resiliant and prepare for things to get worse.
It doesn't matter which colour of govt is in place. They all fall to the same disease. GREED.  I'm alright Jack too bad about you lesser beings. 

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There is a message in this.

 

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That has gone over my head.

Renewable energy is cheaper than fossil fuels as we've seen on the report for the ACT that has gone 100% renewables. Hopefully there will be short term action by the government to help the poor whilst the switch to renewables is occurring in other states and territories.

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Yobarr, Resorting to belittle somebody?   Yes, As a matter of fact I am in such a position.    The trees surround the house and are 80ft high.

You say I am not in a position to ask people to do their sums. My degree and occupation would disagree with that.

Yobarr wrote: Your analogy of comparing interest and capital on a loan with paying an Electricity bill is invalid in that if you purchase a quality solar system, after 3-4 years you OWN an income-producing asset tyat will last many years, but if you continue to pay your ever-increasing power bill, at the end of 3-4 years all you have is empty pockets.

That can happen with loans as well.  Especially now with interest rate rises and you happen to have a loan with variable rates.  Just do your sums. It is a very valid analogy.  Especially for a lot of people on here.   Oh and I didn't say it was wrong I just said do your sums.  Things are changing.

Interest rates are on upwards movement even now.  Both for savings and loans. Moreso for loans.  Do your sums and work out if it will work for you.  Know the pitfalls. 

Inflation:  All that says it will cost you more if you leave it for a few years.  But so will your capacity to pay. Even if you are on a pension.  So it is a nil sum.  

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 The relevant loan is a fixed term loan and the payments are less than the savings on the power bill, so the  system costs you nothing. Most impressed that you have some sort of degree, but that doesn't change the fact that you clearly have little understanding of the Solar industry. It is pointless advising others to " do your sums and work it out" as there is simply nothing to "work out". And provided a quality system is purchased, there are no "pitfalls". But again I will say that I was simply offering to help you, not realising that I'd be challenged. Sorry I bothered. Cheers

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 Suggest to take good advice when it's given. What he means is the repayment $ is less then the savings. Eg: Repayment $50/mth, savings $70/mth. We have the maximum

allowed in residential Qld for feed back. We have never paid for electricity and get a refund check when the amount is greater then $500.

Think about that one msg.