Some amusing facts about The Queen you likely didn't know - the "Comments" are interesting too:

The Age - 31 facts about The Queen

Ladies and Gentlemen,
Can someone please explain the significance of the Queen (now passed), the King or any other member of the
British Royal Family in terms of the daily running of England, Australia and for that matter any other nations
of the Commonwealth.
I watched the various coverages of the mourning etc, a lot of English people were expressing the fact that
they will 'miss' her.
Please enlighten me as to how that is. For example, she had no input in the UK joining the EU. She had no
input in the UK leaving the EU, famously know as Brexit.
Other then a figurehead, is there any other functional purpose in having a King or Queen.
No wanting to make this a political discussion as we all know how much Cindy likes this, what is the
difference between carrying as we are albeit with a King instead of a Queen or becoming a Republic from
a day to day running of the country. We could still be part of the Commonwealth.

Thank you Santa for the video and the great explanation and insight into the monarchy and its position today with reference to other countries and to Great Britain.

Well worth the watch although I am afraid the message may go over the heads of a couple on here.

Santa wrote:

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Have a listen to the thoughts of Jordan Peterson 

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A man with much wisdom and always worth listening carefully to.

Santa wrote:

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Have a listen to the thoughts of Jordan Peterson re the Queen and the monarchy, perhaps it will enlighten you to a degree, though I have my doubts, I suspect your mind is well and truly made up.

....SNIP

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 It's not about my mind being well and truly made up but more about the day to day input/function the members of the Royal family have

in the running of the country/countries.

This Youtube did nothing toward that other then tell what I already knew which is that Trump is a complete and utter anal orifice and the rest...

Nothing about the Queen/King as to how they fit in today. As per my previous example, no input in England joining the EU and few years later

Brexit. 

Still waiting.

Surely we can wait with respect until she is buried before we begin to discuss how great our country will be under a republican system with someone like Peter Garrett at the helm.

God forbid and may God rest her soul.

deverall11 wrote:

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Plain Truth wrote:

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....... So what system do you want to run Australia

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 What is the difference between a head of state and a King/Queen.

So far I cannot see it except for the optics. 

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 So give us an answer.

Still waiting

-- Edited by Plain Truth on Wednesday 14th of September 2022 08:22:11 PM

Gundog wrote:

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deverall11 wrote:

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Plain Truth wrote:

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....... So what system do you want to run Australia

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 What is the difference between a head of state and a King/Queen.

So far I cannot see it except for the optics. 

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 A very big difference, in our current state our head of state is the reigning monarch, King of Australia King Charles the 3rd, the GG is a political appointment by the government who is the represents the King.

However becoming a republic the new head of state would be the president, what kind of president would you want one with the reserve powers like the GG and appointed by the government of the day or one like the American president who is elected by the voters. There is another option but heaven forbid I dont want to even think about that.

The most overiding question is, will Australia becoming a Republic better the daily lives of its citizens? 

 

 

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 OK, this starting to make sense. If Australia was to become a Republic, in my view, it would require a model that is as close as what we've got since this works.

If it ain't broke why fix it. It's just as I thought, the monarch is a symbol/figurehead with no real input in the day to day running. So therefore wether the head of state

is a monarch or a president makes no difference to the average person in the street. They will still be able to drive a ute, still go to the pub and every now and then

vote for someone state or federal.

If we get the model right the daily lives of Australian citizen should be the same or better. Reality is, at the end of the day, from a day to day perspective there is

no difference. 

Back a number of years ago, the King or Queen did run the country, not now. This is why I could not understand what all the fuss is/was about.

I still do not understand when people comment that they do not trust Charles the same as the Queen. To my basic way of thinking they

are one and the same. 

dogbox wrote:

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how would we elect/appoint a new head of state ?

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 That was part of the problem in the last referendum both sides of the political divide could not agree on the method to choose a president.

There are many things that would need to change and each would present difficulties and cost.

Mike Harding wrote:

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This is a debate we need to have, indeed it is inevitable, but may I suggest that out of respect for the feelings and sensitivities of many we hold it off until, at least, a few days after the Queen's funeral?

Give people a little time to grieve and adapt to change.

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 My questions were never about having this debate but simply trying to understand the mechanics.

Republic came up but was never a subject for debate at this point. Unfortunately I do not have another word

to use instead of. Perhaps XYZ as a neutral what ever this may be as an alternative.

Agree, lets wait out the morning period. 

Magnarc wrote:

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Blues Man wrote,

"The Queen was a a lady with a beautiful heart ,selfless and caring."

Can't say that I totally agree with that Patrick. Along with her sister she had to be virtually dragged out of Buck House to stand and watch Diana's cortege passing and it took her a whole week before she visited Aberfan where a slag heap collapse killed 28 adults and 116 children. I have respect for her commitment to the job, but she didn't always get it right. She was after all, just a human being like the rest of us was she not????

 

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 Such joy for you and your family to live your entire lives under the scrutiny of the media and tolerating some form of criticism with regard to any misadventure wether it be minor or major.

Let those without any fault cast the first stone. 

Is it just my observation that the anti monarchists just cant seem to wait until after the official funeral.

I do note that at least two topics have been deleted by management and that those who instigated those topics have been generally very quiet with any contribution.

My thoughts stray to our own Mr Google and others to hit with vengeance after the service.

Hang onto your hat Cindy.

Magnarc wrote:

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You have made your point Ivan, as I have made mine, so nuff said?

 

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 You most certainly have. So now my point is:

It is a shame that you feel so threatened by a centuries old tradition that you couldnt raise enough respect within yourself to refrain from comment until after the funeral.

My point is pretty basic.

When I come across any funeral I refrain from personal input particularly if it is negative.

I am of the old school where I was taught not to interrupt funeral processions and to comply with all other customs regarding funerals and services in our society.

When anyone passes and it may be a person of whom you may not like or agree then then I personally hold my tongue out of respect.

Respect is something that comes from deep within and to disrespect anyone at their passing is a display of rudeness at its peak. 

Your time to voice your opinion will come in good time but for now show some respect. It is not that hard.

So magnarc this is my point.

86GTS wrote:

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I really think that a forum full of old farts arguing over this subject is a total waste of time, particularly as most of us are nearing the end of our lives, which makes it absolutely pointless.
Concentrate on what matters the most to you because you'll be history soon.

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 You probably are correct.

Most of us are too old to see or experience change that may be suggested by the anti monarch group but none of us are too old not to be able to show no respect.

-- Edited by Ivan 01 on Sunday 18th of September 2022 08:15:35 PM