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Mike Harding


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I'm not an arty person, I'm an engineer, logical, analytical, rational; I can't play music and I barely know which end of a paintbrush to hold although I can write a bit and my emotions flow close to the surface.

Anyway; over the years I have had a number of enjoyable (sometimes heated) arguments with arty people regarding what constitutes art and not one of them has been able to provide an explanation which made sense to me so I concluded that "art is in the eye of the beholder." And they mainly disagreed with me here too! One rather wild female even threw a glass of wine in my face, she was so angry - she was sexy though :)

My assertion is that if you are going to claim something is "good art" then you need to be able to define art otherwise what is the basis of your measurement which differentiates good art from bad art? Is a random pile of bricks at the National Gallery in London (honest!) really "art"? I have my doubts.

But today I believe I can rest my case that art is in the eye of the beholder or, perhaps, the sheep who follows the herd :)

BBC article - 75 years and the wrong way up



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About as obvious as Mr Bean looking at dental x-ray!



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When I was a kid, I was more or less forced to do a flower arrangement & stick it in a local contest. Handed it over to the organisers.

Actually have inherited the cast iron flattish rectangular vase. So it has memories.

 

Anyway, after the judging everyone was allowed in to see who won the various prizes.

 

I was pissed off that I won third prize. They had put my very modern minimalist arrangement back the front.

 

Then on the other hand, maybe I was lucky to get third prize because it was back the front!



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Perhaps Mr Squiggle was the curator.

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Well !!

Who knew !!

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This reminds me of something myself and a couple of mates did in year 10 high school.  We were studying D.H. Lawrence in English so my mates and I decided to write a bit of verse and then we took it to the English teacher in the next period and told her we copied it from a text book of D.H. Lawrence in the library.  The teacher liked it and we studied "what the author was saying in the verse" for the next two periods.  If only she knew we were the authors.



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Blue Poles, eat your heart out Jackson

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KevinJ wrote:

This reminds me of something myself and a couple of mates did in year 10 high school.  We were studying D.H. Lawrence in English so my mates and I decided to write a bit of verse and then we took it to the English teacher in the next period and told her we copied it from a text book of D.H. Lawrence in the library.  The teacher liked it and we studied "what the author was saying in the verse" for the next two periods.  If only she knew we were the authors.

 So were those high school mates trying to emulate some of DH Lawrence 's style and story lines, to their own thoughts regarding their female English teacher?no



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I have seen some art in NSW ate gallery called Black Sheep on Black Paddock. In other words the reflective index between gloss & mat black paint. I think you can guess the layout... maybe gloss & mat in the wrong order!

 

On the other hand, I have been to Giverny to see the environment where an artist can create actual art (if you can get to Giverny without too many tourists you will really understand the paintings).



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Have a look at at Turner, I really like his miniature paintings more so than the well known large pieces.



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Craig1 wrote:

Blue Poles, eat your heart out Jackson

Blue Poles is what happens when you sh1t and fart at the same time.



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watsea wrote:
KevinJ wrote:

This reminds me of something myself and a couple of mates did in year 10 high school.  We were studying D.H. Lawrence in English so my mates and I decided to write a bit of verse and then we took it to the English teacher in the next period and told her we copied it from a text book of D.H. Lawrence in the library.  The teacher liked it and we studied "what the author was saying in the verse" for the next two periods.  If only she knew we were the authors.

 So were those high school mates trying to emulate some of DH Lawrence 's style and story lines, to their own thoughts regarding their female English teacher?no

 Maybe because she was quite hot.



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Whenarewethere wrote:

Have a look at at Turner, I really like his miniature paintings more so than the well known large pieces.

Love his work; his understanding of light along with his ability to use it to best advantage was exceptional.

He painted during the romantic period, however was also one of the early impressionists.

A remarkable artist, also reputed to be a randy old bugger.biggrin

The movie Mr Turner (his last 25 years) is well worth a look https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/mr_turner

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Artists today couldn't create Turner's light even with a pallet full of fluorescent colours.



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I agree that

art is in the eye of the beholder

Because some art to me is good

But

Some stuff which others say is art, is to me, so laughable as to be funny



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There has been a fresh tragedy in the art world. Vandalism at the National Art Gallery.

Andy Warhol's beautiful artwork has been vandalised by climate protesters.

At times like this I think of comments like Tony Bev's last sentence in the previous post.



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I think the soup cans were meant to be there. The curators must have been confused with last month's protest. It's an easy mistake to make.

"Later that same month, Just Stop Oil protesters threw tomato soup at Vincent Van Gogh's Sunflowers painting at the National Gallery in London."



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