What's wrong with a cable car?

dorian · Guru

What's wrong with a cable car?

Mike Harding · Guru

Your unspoken implication is probably spot on but as there appears to be a sealed road to the summit then I do not see any need for a cable car as it would be a big blot on the landscape simply providing a joy ride for people who could have driven to the top.

dorian · Guru

Mike Harding wrote:
Your unspoken implication is probably spot on but as there appears to be a sealed road to the summit then I do not see any need for a cable car as it would be a big blot on the landscape simply providing a joy ride for people who could have driven to the top.

I don't see it as a blot, and I don't necessarily see anything necessarily wrong with a joy ride. In any case, the "residents" can't really claim to have any greater stake in the proposal than any other Australian.

86GTS · Senior Member

Having driven to the summit I think going by cable car would be much safer. It was a "white knuckle" experience, the locals are maniacs.

Southern Cruizer · Guru

Certainly makes you watch the road carefully and not enjoy the scenery as much as you would like to

Whenarewethere · Guru

I drove up in 2019. Have done it before 4 times. They close the road if there is inclement weather, but other than that it is a nice drive up there. For the fitter ones you can walk on the trails.

My guess is if they put a cable car in, then they would put a toll on the road access to make up for shortfall revenue on a cable car.

Mariner30 · Senior Member

A loud vocal minority stopped it going ahead.
Nearly every house along the access road had a " no cable car sign" out the front.

The rest of Tas said " build it and they will come ".

vanTas · Veteran Member

A. The chosen route started near a housing area, went over said area, then climbed over the "Organ Pipes", to finish just below the summit right in front of the present viewing area.

B The upper terminal was planned to be extensive. Would have caused much disturbance.

C. It was to have a restaurant, that operated at night.

D. Only a few cable cars, but each to carry 80, plus freight for resaurant on way up, waste of all types on way down. That equates to two full size buses joined together. No seats - all standing, children/tots included.

E. Only three pylons, but each was to be very sizeable.

F. The whole thing would be visible from almost anywhere around central Hobart. Extremely visible from the waterfront.

G. Major disturbance of wildlife - both animals and birds.

H. Major intrusion into First Peoples' heritage area.

I. Large generator of noise.

J. No provision for Fire and Safety/evacuation.

K. Unable to operate on windy days.

L. Useless to operate in cloud - about fifty percent of remaining days.

M. Road still needs to remain and be upgraded. Used for asset maintenance, tourists who prefer terra-firma, emergency vehicles etc.

There are other more acceptable routes that would not interfere with things, but the proponents would only look at the one that would cause most interference.

Nice idea, but totally wrong approach, poorly planned, little regard to the mountain's majesty or the heritage of the area, or the fauna/flora. Totally dollar driven, to the point of trying to prevent tourists going by road.

A lot of Tasmanians that live outside Hobart were in favour, but they are not aware of the problems/ obstacles. Most Hobartians are against the project as presented.

Magnarc · Guru

86GTS wrote:
Having driven to the summit I think going by cable car would be much safer. It was a "white knuckle" experience, the locals are maniacs.

Has to be a first! I agree with 86.

We have driven that road three times and it is a hairy experience. I have to agree with those who objected to this project. It is a beautiful area as it is and sticking pylons on it would certainly be no improvement.

Upgrading the road would be a much better idea.

-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 7th of December 2022 08:05:12 AM

Whenarewethere · Guru

If Tasmania is going to install a cable car, do Jacobs Ladder Ben Lomond National Park first. It makes Mt Wellington look like a Sunday picnic. But then you would completely ruin the drive up Ben Lomond, it's brilliant.

-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Wednesday 7th of December 2022 08:31:11 AM

Mariner30 · Senior Member

Magnarc wrote:

We have driven that road three times and it is a haince. I have to agree with those who objected to this project. It is a beautiful area as it is and sticking pylons on it would certainly be no improvement.
Upgrading the road would be a much better idea.

-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 7th of December 2022 08:05:12 AM

The pylons would fit in with all the other pylons that are already there now...TV, communications etc etc.

Which can easily be seen from nearly everywhere in Hobart, including the Salamanca tourism areas.

Upgrade the road you say...

Destroying how much of the mountain...and it's beautiful critters, beasties and the " mystery " of the Disappearing Tarn...just to allow even more fossil fuel powered vehicles access to the even larger existing scar on top of the mountain...also known as the carpark.

That will have to be made bigger now.

Where will the poor displaced critters and birdies now go?

" paved paradise...put up a parking lot "

Magnarc · Guru

Mariner30 wrote:
Magnarc wrote:

We have driven that road three times and it is a haince. I have to agree with those who objected to this project. It is a beautiful area as it is and sticking pylons on it would certainly be no improvement.
Upgrading the road would be a much better idea.

-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 7th of December 2022 08:05:12 AM
The pylons would fit in with all the other pylons that are already there now...TV, communications etc etc.
Which can easily be seen from nearly everywhere in Hobart, including the Salamanca tourism areas.

Upgrade the road you say...

Destroying how much of the mountain...and it's beautiful critters, beasties and the " mystery " of the Disappearing Tarn...just to allow even more fossil fuel powered vehicles access to the even larger existing scar on top of the mountain...also known as the carpark.

That will have to be made bigger now.

Where will the poor displaced critters and birdies now go?

" paved paradise...put up a parking lot "

"You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.'

Would appear to be true in this case.

Mariner30 · Senior Member

Magnarc wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Magnarc wrote:

We have driven that road three times and it is a haince. I have to agree with those who objected to this project. It is a beautiful area as it is and sticking pylons on it would certainly be no improvement.
Upgrading the road would be a much better idea.

-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 7th of December 2022 08:05:12 AM
The pylons would fit in with all the other pylons that are already there now...TV, communications etc etc.
Which can easily be seen from nearly everywhere in Hobart, including the Salamanca tourism areas.

Upgrade the road you say...

Destroying how much of the mountain...and it's beautiful critters, beasties and the " mystery " of the Disappearing Tarn...just to allow even more fossil fuel powered vehicles access to the even larger existing scar on top of the mountain...also known as the carpark.

That will have to be made bigger now.

Where will the poor displaced critters and birdies now go?

" paved paradise...put up a parking lot "

"You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.'
Would appear to be true in this case.

Bahha!

Are you aware that there were only 6...that's SIX people.. . more people who voted no compared to the 3 who said yes.

Have you been following this conversation re a cable car for the last 100 years or so?

RickJ · Senior Member

Would the road improvement be environmentally unfriendly if it was used only by electric cars?
Would a new clean and green charging station built half way up make it environmentally OK.
A cable car by design, limits many from going to the summit.
A decent and safe road, not so much.

Magnarc · Guru

Mariner30 wrote:
Magnarc wrote:
Mariner30 wrote:
Magnarc wrote:

We have driven that road three times and it is a haince. I have to agree with those who objected to this project. It is a beautiful area as it is and sticking pylons on it would certainly be no improvement.
Upgrading the road would be a much better idea.

-- Edited by Magnarc on Wednesday 7th of December 2022 08:05:12 AM
The pylons would fit in with all the other pylons that are already there now...TV, communications etc etc.
Which can easily be seen from nearly everywhere in Hobart, including the Salamanca tourism areas.

Upgrade the road you say...

Destroying how much of the mountain...and it's beautiful critters, beasties and the " mystery " of the Disappearing Tarn...just to allow even more fossil fuel powered vehicles access to the even larger existing scar on top of the mountain...also known as the carpark.

That will have to be made bigger now.

Where will the poor displaced critters and birdies now go?

" paved paradise...put up a parking lot "

"You can please some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.'
Would appear to be true in this case.

Bahha!

Are you aware that there were only 6...that's SIX people.. . more people who voted no compared to the 3 who said yes.

Have you been following this conversation re a cable car for the last 100 years or so?

As you obviously have strongly held views on this subject, I bow out.

Mariner30 · Senior Member

As you obviously have strongly held views on this subject, I bow out.

My views on the cable car are not that " strongly held " at all...more in line with those of most Tasmanian residents...apart from those who live on some of the access roads.

My views are echoed in most of the Tasmanian surveys carried out by various interested parties and reported in the local media.

While some folk on interstate forums have their say, at the end of the day A cable car will go ahead at some time in the future.

Many interstate folk would have never spoken to anyone in Tasmania about this proposal to gauge how much support for a cable car there actually is in Tasmania.

Ivan 01 · Guru

This sounds a bit like a dam and hydro electricity project that is hogtied by green power. Pardon the pun. cry