Is the world going crazy.

Cuppa · Guru

Is the world going crazy.

Are We Lost · Guru

I am content with what I said in the previous post and don't wish to engage in further discussion when your longish post has little to do with the subject. Choosing words from your post ...

"Disagreement only becomes divisive once folk allow themselves to divert from the topic"

Magnarc · Guru

Long posts have the opposite to what's intended, especially when the posters position on certain topics are very well known. I do not read posts that are 30/35 lines long when the subject being written about could be condensed into 6 or 7 lines tops, unless they are technical advice helping others with problems. I am very sad when I see what was once a great place to have respectful, meaningful discourse and helped folks who needed it, turned into a few pushing their views down other peoples throats at every opportunity.

Cuppa · Guru

Are We Lost wrote:

Choosing words from your post ...

"Disagreement only becomes divisive once folk allow themselves to divert from the topic"

You missed the important part of the quote which was:

Disagreement only becomes divisive once folk allow themselves to divert from the topic & become personal toward those with differing views.

AndyCap100 · Senior Member

Hi, Cuppa, i hope your diarrhea clears up quickly .!
As for the main topic of the posts ,SM Whiskey sums it up in my opinion .in that everyone theses days wants to be seen as `special`. There`s `special` people spewing out of the woodwork in increasing no`s because they can Social networking etc allows them the means to have a voice like never before and most live just sad ,pathetic lives that they are only too happy to jump on any bandwagon that shows an interest in them .
Me ,at allmost 71, can`t and won`t even try to understand any of it ,but i do know it is surely and slowly bringing a hellava lot of hate into peoples lives where there`s no need for it .
And to all those that wanna be thought of as `special` Remember ,EVERY human being is special. But MOST OF US don`t need to have a bloody riot to say so and get noticed .
Rock on people, and try and make sense of this mixed up world ,.

Aussie1 · Guru

Lets have a referendum, that will sort it.

dorian · Guru

@Cuppa, I see you as a generous, kind hearted soul who genuinely cares for the less fortunate people in our society. I often don't agree with you, but I still respect your views. It seems that your passion for certain issues makes you a target, but don't let your detractors bother you or deter you.

Have a nice life.

Southern Cruizer · Guru

AndyCap100 wrote:
Hi, Cuppa, i hope your diarrhea clears up quickly .!
As for the main topic of the posts ,SM Whiskey sums it up in my opinion .in that everyone theses days wants to be seen as `special`. There`s `special` people spewing out of the woodwork in increasing no`s because they can Social networking etc allows them the means to have a voice like never before and most live just sad ,pathetic lives that they are only too happy to jump on any bandwagon that shows an interest in them .
Me ,at allmost 71, can`t and won`t even try to understand any of it ,but i do know it is surely and slowly bringing a hellava lot of hate into peoples lives where there`s no need for it .
And to all those that wanna be thought of as `special` Remember ,EVERY human being is special. But MOST OF US don`t need to have a bloody riot to say so and get noticed .
Rock on people, and try and make sense of this mixed up world ,.

AndyCap100, agree 100%

Cuppa · Guru

AndyCap100 wrote:
Hi, Cuppa, i hope your diarrhea clears up quickly .!
As for the main topic of the posts ,SM Whiskey sums it up in my opinion .in that everyone theses days wants to be seen as `special`. There`s `special` people spewing out of the woodwork in increasing no`s because they can Social networking etc allows them the means to have a voice like never before and most live just sad ,pathetic lives that they are only too happy to jump on any bandwagon that shows an interest in them .
Me ,at allmost 71, can`t and won`t even try to understand any of it ,but i do know it is surely and slowly bringing a hellava lot of hate into peoples lives where there`s no need for it .
And to all those that wanna be thought of as `special` Remember ,EVERY human being is special. But MOST OF US don`t need to have a bloody riot to say so and get noticed .
Rock on people, and try and make sense of this mixed up world ,.

Hi AndyCap100,

No Diarrhoea at present than goodness, the 3 tablets a day do a pretty good job of keeping that at bay. Thanks for your concern though. I hope you too are in good health.

Me at almost 66, although it may be surprise to you, agree pretty much with all that you say. There is far too much hatred & sadly social media does give voice to it. I speak out against this when it becomes noticeable in my quite satisfied life.

-- Edited by Cuppa on Tuesday 28th of March 2023 02:07:42 PM

Cuppa · Guru

dorian wrote:
@Cuppa, I see you as a generous, kind hearted soul who genuinely cares for the less fortunate people in our society. I often don't agree with you, but I still respect your views. It seems that your passion for certain issues makes you a target, but don't let your detractors bother you or deter you.

Have a nice life.

Thanks Dorian, the respect is reciprocated. Whilst you remain a bit of a mystery to me I do have you pegged as someone who is thoughtful & insightful.

My passion for certain issues does indeed make me a target. I'm not a masochist however, & wish it were not so, but the fact that it happens only reinforces my desire to speak out when I see folk justifying beliefs & behaviours which lack compassion & empathy & which impact negatively on others.

I often think that were I talking to most of those who appear to enjoy having targets, whilst sitting out in the bush around a camp fire that although we may not agree on many things, we might actually find ways to enjoy each other's company.

I consider my life one I am lucky to have. Thanks. I wish you well.

Are We Lost · Guru

AndyCap100 wrote:
.......... There`s `special` people spewing out of the woodwork in increasing no`s because they can Social networking etc allows them the means to have a voice like never before .............

Thanks Andy for bringing this back to the subject of the thread.

So much for the goal of unification, when in reality, the opposite is happening .... and so quickly. In just a short few years, the subject of racism has become so partisan that it is almost impossible to have a sensible discussion, because opinions are so strong. I used to watch movies, and never even thought about the race of the actors. Now I do.

I believe the same issue is what is driving the sudden increase in crime in remote areas of Australia ... constant discussion from an early age about racism and inequality, instead of assimilation. A referendum to give one group more power surely increases that division. I know it does for me.

The same for those with non heterosexual preferences, and other minority groups. The minority groups seem to be growing bigger chips on their shoulders and causing more division rather than just allowing assimilation in society to happen naturally ... as it was doing.

-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 28th of March 2023 02:43:55 PM

dorian · Guru

Cuppa wrote:
Thanks Dorian, the respect is reciprocated. Whilst you remain a bit of a mystery to me I do have you pegged as someone who is thoughtful & insightful.

In my earlier years I used to be much more conservative in my views. In those days, to determine one's sex, you only needed to look inside your underwear. Since then, I have experienced mental issues of my own, issues within my family, issues amongst friends, and I also have personal experiences with mental patients. Nowadays I play a kind of internal devil's advocate, pitting my former self against my current self. I know how the other side thinks because I used to be one of them. Now I try to find some middle ground which acknowledges and incorporates inputs from all sides.

Cuppa · Guru

Are We Lost wrote:
The minority groups seem to be growing bigger chips on their shoulders and causing more division rather than just allowing assimilation in society to happen naturally ... as it was doing.

-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 28th of March 2023 02:43:55 PM

I expect similar sentiments were expressed when the suffragettes made their presence felt 120+ years ago. Without their efforts nothing would have changed. What changed was right. Change is rarely easy.

RickJ · Senior Member

Are We Lost wrote:
AndyCap100 wrote:
.......... There`s `special` people spewing out of the woodwork in increasing no`s because they can Social networking etc allows them the means to have a voice like never before .............
Thanks Andy for bringing this back to the subject of the thread.
So much for the goal of unification, when in reality, the opposite is happening .... and so quickly. In just a short few years, the subject of racism has become so partisan that it is almost impossible to have a sensible discussion, because opinions are so strong. I used to watch movies, and never even thought about the race of the actors. Now I do.
I believe the same issue is what is driving the sudden increase in crime in remote areas of Australia ... constant discussion from an early age about racism and inequality, instead of assimilation. A referendum to give one group more power surely increases that division. I know it does for me.
The same for those with non heterosexual preferences, and other minority groups. The minority groups seem to be growing bigger chips on their shoulders and causing more division rather than just allowing assimilation in society to happen naturally ... as it was doing.

-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 28th of March 2023 02:43:55 PM

This was said a page ago in this topic.

*This suggests that gender inequality is just another quest to create division.*

And this was hilighted as a reply to the quote;

*Why would anyone think that the aim of folk speaking out in favour of transgender rights is intended to create division?*

Thank you AndyCap100 and Are We Lost.

In reality most people see this as it is and that is just another attempt to create obvious division.

Maybe the question should be asked as to why wouldnt anyone think the aim of folk speaking out bla bla bla etc etc.

While we might ask a question what would most folk want for their family and friends.??

Quoted from a post above.

I would not want or expect any female member of my family or friends have to compete in sport against a person of doubtful gender.

Webmaster · Guru

Thanks everyone for your input on this; however I think the discussion has run its course so I am closing it now. Just a reminder to refrain from personal attacks. A few of the recent topics on this subforum have become quite heated and some members have made personal comments to and about others. We welcome robust debate as long posts are focused on the topic, not the member who posted (please also note that we do not allow politics).