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Vale Australian Cricket


Goodbye Australian Cricket. After super captain announcement and the naming arrangements for Fridays Test, you have lost me.

 

Denmark and Ireland will get my support now.



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I wont be watching cricket whilst pc is captain. Go woke, go broke. Cricket is supposed to be entertainment, not political.

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Just something else to add to their "cheating" history resume.

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What's going on?

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Cricket Australia made this decision a few years back and implemented it in 2021. People are allowed to have an opinion and when asked, are allowed to express that opinion.

If you bother to read the interview instead of just posting some ridiculous catch word you will see that he was quite measured and respectful in giving his opinion.

If he had expressed an opinion in support of your own, I imagine you would have been thumping the tub, fisting the air and proclaiming him as a great Aussie.

I don't support this team of cheats, but good on him.



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When sports clubs get involved in Woke politics then you realize they have shifted sports to an arm of politics.

 

 



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I never have really understood what the word woke means. It originated in the south of the USA when there were issues about statues of former slave owners being removed from public view but how does that relate to thinking a date not inclusive of everyone not right.

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What irks me about the term, "woke", is that some placard waving morons chose to frame their just struggle with a grammatical error, thereby dooming their noble cause to perpetual, effortless ridicule.

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So because he is the captain of the Australian  cricket team he is not allowed a personal view??? He was asked a question and gave an honest answer. He was speaking for himself not the team. Personally I don't support moving Australia Day it should stay where it is imho.

To say that you won't watch the cricket because of one mans comments Craig, is like cutting off your nose to spite your face mate. As for our resident lawyer's comment with regard to a team of cheats, the past is the past, nuff sed.



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Maybe some people should do some research on why Australia Day is on the 26th. Heres a copy pasta.

Captain Cook did not arrive in Australia on the 26th of January.
The Landing of Captain Cook in Sydney happened on the 28th of April 1770 not on the 26th of January 1770. The First Fleet arrived in Botany Bay on the 18th of January. The 26th was chosen as Australia Day for a different reason; however, Captain Cooks landing was included in Australia Day celebrations as a reminder of a significant historical event.
Since the extravagant bicentenary celebrations of 1988, when Sydney-siders decided Captain Cooks lbax anding should become the focus of the Australia Day h, the importance of this date for all Australians has begun to fade.
Now, a generation later, its all but lost.
This is because our politicians and educators have not been doing a good job promoting the day. Our politicians have not been advertising the real reason for Australia Day, and our educators have not been teaching our children the importance of the 26th of January to all Australians.
The media, as usual, is happy to twist the truth for the sake of controversy.
In recent years, the media has helped fan the flames of discontent among the Aboriginal community. Many are now so offended by what they see as a celebration of the beginning of the darkest days of Aboriginal history, they want the date changed.
Various local Councils are seeking to remove themselves from Australia Day celebrations, even refusing to participate in citizenship ceremonies, and calls are going out to have Australia Day on a different day.
The big question is, why has the Government allowed this misconception to continue?
Captain Cook didnt land on the 26th of January. So changing the date of any celebration of Captain Cooks landing would not have any impact on Australia Day, but maybe it would clear the way for the truth about Australia Day.
The reality is, the Aborigines in this country suffered terribly under the hands of British colonialism. This is as much Australias history as the landing of the first fleet, and both should be remembered, equally. Both should be taught, side by side, in our schools.
Australians of today abhor what was done under British governance to the Aborigines. We abhor what was done under British governance to the Irish and many other cultures around the world. So, after the horrors of WWII we decided to fix it.
We became our own people.
On the 26th of January 1949, the Australian nationality came into existence when the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948 was enacted. That was the day we were first called Australians and allowed to travel with Passports as Australians.
Under the Nationality Act 1920 (Cth), all Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders born after January 1, 1921 gained the status of British subjects. In 1949, therefore, they automatically became Australian citizens under the Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948.
Before that special date, all people living in Australia, including Aborigines born after 1921, were called British Subjects and forced to travel on British Passports and fight in British wars.
We all became Australians on the same day!
This is why we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January!
This was the day Australians became free to make our own decisions about which wars we would fight and how our citizens would be treated. It was the day Aborigines were declared Australians.
Until this date, Aborigines were not protected by law. For the first time since Cooks landing, this new Act gave Aboriginal Australians by inference and precedent the full protection of Australian law.
Because of this Act, the government became free to help Aborigines, and since that day much has been done to assist Aboriginal Australians, including saying sorry for the previous atrocities done before this law came into being.
This was a great day for all Australians!
This is why the 26th of January is the day new Australians receive their citizenship. It is a day which celebrates the implementation of the Nationality and Citizenship Act of 1948 the Act which gave freedom and protection to the first Australians and gives all Australians, old and new, the right to live under the protection of Australian Law, united as one nation.
Now, isnt that cause for celebration?
Education is key! There is a great need for education on the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on the 26th of January. This reason needs to be advertised and taught in schools. We all need to remember this one very special day in Australias history, when freedom came to all Australians.
What was achieved that day is something for which all Australians can be proud!
We need to remember both the good and the bad in our history, but the emphasis must be the freedom and unity all Australians now have, because of what was done on the 26th of January 1949, to allow all of us to live without fear in a land of peace.
Isnt it time all Australians were taught the real reason we celebrate Australia Day on Jan 26th?

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Well said rgren2.
I reckon all this living in the past is counter productive at all levels.
These people that dwell and live in the past for many or all past indiscretions must have lonely unhappy lives.
I had another Drs visit yesterday for some of my many serious illness complaints that tend to appear with advancing age.
I commented to my lovely lady Dr that we in this country do not appreciate what we have. Our medical system and treatments and concessions are really quite incredible.
We are the luckiest country in the world, but now test captains, various groups and these so tagged woke idiots are hell bent on bringing the whole show down for what?
Their small minded living in the past selfish little beliefs. That's the way fellas, cut the legs off a captain Cook statue and all will change tomorrow. Goodonya ya idiots.
We need to look at what we all have, celebrate it as one and appreciate that we dont live in places like the Gaza strip or the Ukraine and look at the unbelievable health system we have and so very lucky way of living instead of whinging about the past constantly.
I saw it and commented on it yesterday, recognised it and appreciate what we all really do have.
It is shame so many wallow in the whinging and cannot see the forest for the trees.


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Australia Day was celebrated prior to the citizenship act.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160613212437/http://www.australiaday.com.au/about/history-of-australia-day/chronology/

 

1946
All States and Territories celebrate the 26 January as Australia Day
1949
Separate Australian citizenship became law for the first time Citizenship ceremonies began to become part of Australia Day celebrations


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The Nationality and Citizenship Act was enacted on 26th January as it was thought to appropriate to use that date as it was the day we celebrated Australia Day.  We didn't change reasons for celebrating the day, we just had Royal Assent given to a piece of legislation to coincide with the day.

In relation to your living and whinging about the past comments, rmoor, does your view also relate to Anzac Day and or Armistice Day?

Do you think we should just move on and forget about those days too?



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Any professional sports person who espouses any political opinions whatsoever loses my respect.

When you leave the sport from a professional capacity then voice any opinions you choose.

Sport and Politics just don't mix. Religion and Politics just don't mix. Racism and Politics just don't mix.



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I don't really understand what was political about his comments. He answered a question, he did not use his position to make a political comment.

What if he remained silent. Do you not think that remaining silent is also a way of making a statement?



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I haven't attended an Anzac day or an Australia ceremony in nearly 20 years.
Doesn't mean I don't respect those days, I just don't wallow in the past.
I do however privately respect my late fathers contribution with 78 Wing, Milne Bay and other theatres of war.
If it wasn't for he and his mates like him, none of is would be here.
No-one would have had a voice in this country now, all our forebears would have ended up on the end of a Japanese bayonet
Yet we now have armies of whingers only out for themselves and what they can get and little regard for Anzac heroes or our forefathers struggles.
There are too many bigmouths in our society with little contribution of effort to make it a better place.

A lot of people have very short memories.

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"I don't really understand what was political about his comments. He answered a question, he did not use his position to make a political comment."

I reckon he should keep his trap shut and concentrate on his main occupation - cricket.
Let's not forget he objects to Alinta Energy as a sponsor, but as a member of Cricket for Climate Group doesn't mind driving a fossil fuel car or flying to cricket destinations.
He is quite hypocritical with his opinions and may be better served to keep his big trap shut.
If he objects to fossil fuels than next tour of Sri Lanka or NZ he should travel via a solar powered tinnie to his destination then?

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"I don't support this team of cheats, but good on him."

I don't get you DMaxer?
Reckon you simply argue for the sake of argument?
Cummins was one of the same bowling group playing in South Africa when the alleged cheating by the Australians occurred.
I have played a lot of cricket and feel I have a strong grasp of the game and as a result I have never been convinced the three new ball bowlers "may have been allegedly" knowledgeable of what the top order batsmen were doing?
Seems a strange situation to me that a ball was being doctored by batsmen and the quicks were not aware of what was going on.
It should have been clear to an experienced bowler that something was amiss with the ball??? Surely??
If not, they must be as dumb as dog****.
Could be wrong but it seems to be unusual that 3 players would hide in a corner of the sheds and plot such a scheme?
Everyone handling the ball on a team knows which side to shine, so that is a case in favour of the bowlers, they may well NOT have been party to the scheme. Just told or saw which side to shine. Who knows? We will never know, or will we eventually find out in a post career best selling Xmas cricket book?
I may well be wrong, but there appear to be inconsistencies present.
You are a lawyer, you work it out.

During the ashes series you expressed your hatred of the team you called "cheats" and supported the poms.
I guess you are now supporting the Windies on Australia Day too???

Sorry mate, I just don't get you, you hate the Aussies you have branded as cheats but you give unconditional support to one of them, being the captain !!!!!

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I have always stated that I believe more than three were involved. Go back and read my posts I made at the time.

I don't support the Australian cricket team but that doesn't mean I have to disagree or agree with what one of them may say. I didn't say anywhere or use the word "hate", they are your words. I said I didn't support them for a number of reasons, one of them being that they were/are cheats. Where have I supported him being captain. I couldn't care less which one of them was named captain

Do you really think that just because tomorrow is named Australia Day that I now have to change my views. I hope the Windies and any other team they play flog them but the chances of that happening are zero. I only played grade cricket in Sydney but I reckon our team at the time would beat the current Windies outfit.  

Perhaps a course of remedial reading would assist you and hopefully from making further allegations of no substance.

 

 



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I gave watching and supporting cricket when the sooks banned the number of high pitched deliveries be bowled per over. 



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"I only played grade cricket in Sydney but I reckon our team at the time would beat the current Windies outfit."

Yeah right....

Your brilliant old grade team would beat an international test team then........

"Tickets please" !!!!!!

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DMaxer wrote:

 

I don't support the Australian cricket team.

 

 


 

 

I'm in full agreement with that comment, me to. well said Cobber.



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Yes I do rmoor. Grade cricket in Sydney was strong in the seventies. There were test and Shield players playing regularly. This current Windies team is nowhere near test standard.

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Well I don't make as big a thing out of it as you do.
But from the bush I was chased by 3 Sydney clubs.
In 1980 I settled on one and kept wickets at one stage to one of Australia's quickest test fast bowlers at the time.
I played against the no 2 keeper as understudy to Jeffrey Dujon when the young bloke was having a stint with Balmain and he made a fine quickfire 50 against us at Rushcutters one day.
He was a lovely bloke, full of life and fun from memory. Good player.
On that, I don't think any sides I played with, even at country representative levels playing with some that went onto much bigger things in Sydney Grade etc, that included several Australian Country reps as well would have likely beaten the current West Indies team.
That is a pretty big ask of a grade club?
Easy brag or comment to make for something that cannot be measured or proved.

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Thanks for another enthralling chapter of My Humble and Modest Life.

What next would you like to share with us.



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DMaxer wrote:

I never have really understood what the word woke means. It originated in the south of the USA when there were issues about statues of former slave owners being removed from public view but how does that relate to thinking a date not inclusive of everyone not right.


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"Thanks for another enthralling chapter of My Humble and Modest Life.

What next would you like to share with us."

I was loathe to publish what I wrote but it was only in response to your big noting.


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Hey Cuppa, i didn't realize that I was An tony ms kinda person.......thanks. smilesmile



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at 7 for 200, looks a bit like " couldnt beat an egg "

 

whoops 7/ 221 at 8.59 esdst



-- Edited by Craig1 on Friday 26th of January 2024 09:00:33 PM

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