Question re social media

Gundog · Guru

Question re social media

BasilB · Veteran Member

maybe tolerating superstitious bull**** is the problem.

Peter_n_Margaret · Senior Member

Who do you want to run this country?
Elon Musk et al or our elected politicians?
Simple choice.
Cheers,
Peter

smwhiskey · Senior Member

Gundog wrote:
So if X, Meta withdrew all their offices from Australia how would the government contend with them then.

An interesting question which seems to have escaped the attention of all those who are currently trying their best to cut social media off at the knees.

My opinion is that if those companies close their offices in Australia, the only action the government can take without involving overseas governments and/or lawyers is to block the sites (X, Facebook, instagram, youtube) so they can't be accessed in Australia. Unlikely to happen and probably a career limiting decision for any government that attempts it.

So I think that the Australian politicians (on all sides and at all levels) (to use a loony tunes analogy) will find themselves stuck in the middle of the road with a large truck bearing down on them.

So purely for your amusement...

-- Edited by smwhiskey on Monday 22nd of April 2024 05:42:01 PM

BasilB · Veteran Member

with all due respect Peter, do we want the rioters leading us?

Are We Lost · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Who do you want to run this country?
Elon Musk et al or our elected politicians?
Simple choice.
Cheers,
Peter

The politicians should not be censoring social media. The world has seen too much censorship in the interests of protecting us. So in this case they should be siding with Elon.

Peter_n_Margaret · Senior Member

You can change the politicians if they don't do what you want, this country is a democracy. But you can not change Elon Musk et al.
Cheers,
Peter

Are We Lost · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
You can change the politicians if they don't do what you want, this country is a democracy. But you can not change Elon Musk et al.
Cheers,
Peter

I don't think I want to change Elon Musk but I wish I could change the politicians.

Cupie · Guru

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
You can change the politicians if they don't do what you want, this country is a democracy. But you can not change Elon Musk et al.
Cheers,
Peter

X2

dogbox · Guru

Are We Lost wrote:

Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
You can change the politicians if they don't do what you want, this country is a democracy. But you can not change Elon Musk et al.
Cheers,
Peter
I don't think I want to change Elon Musk but I wish I could change the politicians.

what is the alternative a dictatorship ?

with free speech there should also be some responsibility we do not allow explicide content to be viewed generally but if you wish to find it you do not have to look to hard to find it.

woolman · Guru

The real problem as I see is the cowards use the anomalies of the internet to spread their abuse.

Make everyone accountable by being identified.

Neil

Dick0 · Guru

Are We Lost wrote:
The politicians should not be censoring social media. The world has seen too much censorship in the interests of protecting us. So in this case they should be siding with Elon.

X2 and again X2

Dick0 · Guru

The Lefties loved Twitter but not so much "X" and the owner.

dorian · Guru

Elon Musk Dead at 52 Says There Is No Need for Misinformation Laws:

https://theshovel.com.au/2024/04/23/elon-musk-dead-at-52-misinformation-laws/

Gundog · Guru

I think I might join Donalds Truth Socia, that might be fun.

smwhiskey · Senior Member

Personally I don't see a lot of difference between the visions of violence they try to ban and the visions of violence you can see everyday on TV (e.g. MMA)

Must be that one is considered a "crime" and the other a legitimate "sport".

TheHeaths · Guru

There is a world of difference between Freedom of Speech, which comes with uncomfortable and hurt feelings when radical opinions are expressed against one or other group, but generally no real physical trauma (but some mental trauma certainly), and the Freedom of Action that these sort of actions are, complete with the accompanying physical trauma and often death depicted.

Allowing those sort of actions to be shown only normalises the use of high levels of violence and rewards the perpetrators with notoriety. This can then prompt similarly unhinged individuals to follow suit for the supposed celebrity they see.

I agree with actions taken to try and limit that sort of content.

Dick0 · Guru

There are hundreds of cinema/video movies depicting graphic killing released each year.

They are censored relative to age groups and allowed to be screened.

Parents can then decide which content minors can view.

The violent/graphic movies are not banned but censored accordingly.

The same should apply to Social Media.

dogbox · Guru

Dick0 wrote:

There are hundreds of cinema/video movies depicting graphic killing released each year.
They are censored relative to age groups and allowed to be screened.
Parents can then decide which content minors can view.
The violent/graphic movies are not banned but censored accordingly.
The same should apply to Social Media.

who would be tasked with the job of censorship?
who decides the guide lines as what should be censored?

are the social media giants responsible enough for self regulation?

Magnarc · Guru

Me too.

smwhiskey · Senior Member

dogbox wrote:
are the social media giants responsible enough for self regulation?

By the same token should we trust that the Government is responsible enough to decide what to censor and what not to censor? TIme and time again the answer has turned out to be "No".

rmoor · Senior Member

The current government love the relatively new terms Disinformation and Misinformation.
Which in effect means, anything other than their dialogue is incorrect.
They are using a form of political gaslighting to put us all in our place and be denied any reasonable form of an opinion.

Peter_n_Margaret · Senior Member

Australia has an independent censorship board.
Or would you prefer some Yank whose primary interest is how much money he makes to decide what happens in Australia?
Cheers,
Peter

smwhiskey · Senior Member

rmoor wrote:
The current government love the relatively new terms Disinformation and Misinformation.
Which in effect means, anything other than their dialogue is incorrect.
They are using a form of political gaslighting to put us all in our place and be denied any reasonable form of an opinion.

I think we're all agreed that this example is neither disinformation or misinformation and the reasons given for the take down request border on hypocritical.

If they really want to be serious about the amount of violence our kids are seeing then they need to start removing "sports" like UFC and boxing from our TV screens and mainstream news media.