Is it time we banned guns full stop? No more recreational hunting. Or at least, ban semi automatic guns...single round only and only kept at a gun club under lock and key.
Farmers except, but only a limit of two single round guns.
Absolutely, no need for guns in the community. John Howard did a good job, but reform is needed.
Semiautomatic has been banned for many years, keep up. The long arms were bolt action, takes a lot off practice to operate them the way they were, keep up. The shot guns had illegally modified magazines, keep up. Get your facts together before you spout off.
Im finished on this subject.
A kneejerk reaction without thinking through the consequences of our already too restrictive gun laws. Criminals and terrorists don't abide by gun laws. They will always have guns regardless of any laws. Everyday law abiding citizens won't have them.
Imagine how differently things could have turned out if some of the crowd had guns instead of cameras and phones to point at the terrorists. Or someone in one of the units overlooking the scene had a decent rifle.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Monday 15th of December 2025 09:46:11 PM
I like the idea of storing them at the gun club.
However, if terrorists dont have guns they will use bombs or trucks driving into crowds.
They just have an insane bloodlust and hatred.
Our universities have a lot to answer for looking a blind eye to antisemitism.
So do Wong Albanese and Burke for their activities.
Votes. Whatever it takes.
Is it time we banned guns full stop? No more recreational hunting. Or at least, ban semi automatic guns...single round only and only kept at a gun club under lock and key.
Farmers except, but only a limit of two single round guns.
Absolutely, no need for guns in the community. John Howard did a good job, but reform is needed.
Collo.
Collo, although you Bio says you had a history of farming - you are certainly out of touch with Australian pasturalists.
Over the last couple of years we have been plagued with rats, mice, foxes, wild dogs, cats, pigs and feral deer.
In an effort to keep these pests under control I use .172 air rifle, .22 rifle, .410 shotgun - I also use a .22 /.410 over under rifle-shot gun combo.
I (reluctantly) surrendered my 8 gauge pump action shotgun in last buy-back (cost $15K) received $50 from Govt - this gun I used for almost all pest control plus community pigeon/skeet competitions.
Blaming legitimate gun owners rather than a lax government immigration effort allowing radical unsustainable immigration from middle eastern cesspools is typical of this weak prime minister trying to cover his backside and not being honest of bringing in undesirables to get extra votes.
Keeping guns in gun club safes is totally stupid as radicals can still go to club and sign out their guns to commit these atrocities,
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Two of our illustrious leaders were quick to put bans on guns last night to divert attention away from their prior inaction that led to them having blood on their hands.
Gun laws are strict. My neighbours have an arsenal of high powered rifles and shotguns and are regularly subject to police gun safe inspections and they shoot regularly at a local property.
The hills around our place are crawling with dangerous wild pigs, deer and all sorts of out of control wildlife due to rifles being so heavily restricted.
Everyone I know that own firearms are subjected to regular, strict inspections from local coppers.
WHY IS IT THEN THAT THESE ISIS LINKED MURDERERS WERE NOT SUSPECTED WHEN INSPECTED BY POLICE AT THE TIME???
It is not a rifle that is at fault, it is our weak, useless political leaders and the likes of ASIO noting ISIS associations 6 years ago and failing to act and letting these radical murderers have access to firearms.
How did any prudent, half smart copper not sniff something smelly with this bloke when they inspected his gun safe???
My neighbours have to show evidence of having regularly shot pests on local farms to keep their licences.
Why are gun laws different for law abiding bushies like us, but different for city dwelling gun owners?
It is not firearms at fault here, it is the weak enforcement of foreign citizens holding firearms and our weak politicians picking sides on an overseas conflict where Australia should have been neutral and leave it to the U.N. and others to debate that stuff.
There is nothing been said about the pipe bombs in the car with the ISIS flags, where are the reports and meetings to ban pipes????
Where are the moves to clamp down on 3D printed illegal firearms that are used in drive by shootings and murders virtually every weekend in Western Sydney where these clowns came from.
These scumbags will always find a way, it is not legal gun owners fault, it is weak government.
As an ex farmer guns are nessessary for vermin controll but i fully understand why they would be happy to not have any at all.. Had 5 different guns, all for a different purpose. Need high power to deal with pigs , light weight for rats and semi automatic for fox shooting from a moving vehicle. Semi auto are very restricted, when sold the farm police were in contact day after settlement for it to be handed in.
I believe the fact that a gun licence is currently for ever is a problem. If we needed to meet the application requirements say every 5 years a lot of surplus guns would be off the streets.
If someone really wants a gun they can make one, not rocket science.
The gun is not the problem it is who is looking down the sights the is the problem.
It has been clearly established on here firearms are an absolute necessity on farm.
For the disposal of fatally wounded stock or animals it is essential a firearm is close at hand.
So, why then, aren't city dwelling firearm owners more heavily scrutinized by the authorities?
Mind you, if they really want to access a firearm, there would be plenty of opportunity to access on the black market.
Also access to 3D printed firearms seems to be much easier these days.
This accent on firearms is merely a political move to change the dialogue away from their own administrative shortcomings.
One of our former local mayors bludged his way into the NSW state senate recently.
He was in the front row on a recent march in the streets of Sydney.
That was the march where a terrorist flag was spotted at the front of that march also.
I need someone to explain to me why he should still retain his seat in the NSW government when he supports those who openly display flags denoting terrorism.
Reckon that is a very fair question.........................
"Semi auto are very restricted, when sold the farm police were in contact day after settlement for it to be handed in."
So what is the history of police inspecting these perpetrators gun safe?
Why was there no suspicions raised about these city dwelling high powered gun owners?
So our esteemed leaders are going to attack legal, fairly entitled gun owners and reduce their entitlements?
There is likely to be another attack, ASIO say a 50% probability, isn't that now 100% after Sunday's attack?
So, our grossly incompetent "leaders" remove ALL guns from society and the next attack is likely to be a nail bomb in the middle of a crowd full of innocent people, women and children.
What then, P.M. and Minister for Home Affairs, ban nails?????
Let's not forget Martin Bryant. It was a Muslim who was the hero of the day. I would rather have 1000 Ahmeds than one racist WASP or one rabid gun lunatic.
-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 16th of December 2025 12:29:18 PM
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Martin Bryant and some religions.
Common denominator? Mental illness.
Consanguineous marriages are more prevalent in many Muslim-majority countries compared to global averages, often due to cultural, social, and economic factors (e.g., keeping wealth in the family, stronger in-law ties, familiarity). Globally, about 10-20% of marriages are consanguineous, but rates are higher in parts of the Middle East, North Africa, and South Asia:
Pakistan ~60-65%
Saudi Arabia ~50-60%
Afghanistan ~40-50%
Egypt ~20-40%
Turkey/Iran ~20-30%
India (among Muslims) Higher than Hindus in some regions (~15-30% vs. national ~10%)
Arab countries overall Often 20-50%, with first-cousin marriages ~25-30% in many
These practices predate Islam in some regions (e.g., pre-Islamic Arabia) and are influenced by tribal traditions, not solely religion. Rates are lower among urban, educated populations and declining in some places (e.g., Lebanon, parts of India), but remain stable or high in rural/tribal areas.
i.e. inbreeding
Imagine how differently things could have turned out if some of the crowd had guns instead of cameras and phones to point at the terrorists. Or someone in one of the units overlooking the scene had a decent rifle.
Australians don't want this country to be like America, where mass shootings are a daily occurrence. You read American news every single day, so you of all people should understand what happens when everybody has a gun.
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The parallels to the shooting of two police at Wieambilla on 12 Dec 2022 are hard to ignore. in that incident, a Christian walked up to Rachael McCrow, ignored her pleading, and shot her in the face. Sebsequent investigation suggests strongly that a Religious freak in the US was the person who's ideas were the primary influence for the heinous behaviour.
In Bondi, two Australian citizens, apparently influenced by an identified Imam with links to ISIS, shot lots of ordinary, innocent people in no less a heinous act than the Christian killers at Wieambilla.
Two points, in Wieambilla, two persons, trained in the use of firarms and carrying weapons, were slaughtered. Suggestions that Australia should be deliberatly rendered as dysfunctional as the US are just silly. The myth of the good citizen with a gun just does not work in practice and lots of examples show that.
Second point, a number of pigs heads and and other pig parts have been strewn around Muslim cemetaries, presumably in an effort to insult ordinary people who identify with a broad description of Islam. i did not see any effort to desecrate or destroy any cemetary for Christian burials after Wieambilla.
Regards the Bondi tradegy, it appears to me that the Haters are trying to deal with Hate by Hating harder. Maybe if there was less Hate going around, much less Hate speach out there, Australia could go back to a mostly peaceful, safe place to be.
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Couple of points.
The father was not a citizen.
Also, look for the root cause. Antisemitism which has been brewing since the Oct 7 massacre.
Unfettered. Almost encouraged by the Australian government.
Ignoring the recommendations of the special envoy. Recognising palestine as a state.
Guns were used in this act of terrorism. But the trigger was our shameful governments inaction.
Anyone making an excuse for them is disgusting.
